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By scot
Thinking about buying a pair of simms classic guide waders. Any opinions on them or reasons not to buy. Also need a good place to order them online local shops don't have the medium short size i need. Thanks
By bigtj
Reasons to buy Simms Guide waders:1. They are comfortable as heck. I think they feel a lot like my most comfortable pair of pajamas.2. Quality made with top-notch materials.3. They last forever.I am currently on my 5th pair of guide waders. They generally last 100-150 days of hard fishing. They're hard to beat.Reasons not to buy them - if you bushwhack a lot in thorns they can get pinholes I think the g3's might hold up better but for the extra $100 or so I just go with the guide waders and am careful.The fly shop in Redding might have the size waders you need.Best,-John
By ffmsucks
we did jerks ;) ;) say simms fit the best? last time i checked levi 501s don't fit everyone the same way. same goes for simms waders.
By Vermonter
Ditto John on the Guides. My only complaint is no built-in gravel guards.
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By Fishmaster Flex
I have gone through several pairs in what I thought was too short a time. My friend had a pair wear out in a few months. He sent them back asking them to honor their lifetime warranty and they told him "the warranty is for the lifetime of the product, not your lifetime" Appearently they don't really care about their customers. I have a pair of G3s right now and if they don't last longer than guideweights have they will be my last pair. Cloudveil might be worth looking into.
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By Adams
I've got classic guides and am happy with them. A freind of mine had some warranty issues, returned them, and had nothing but compliments to Simms. Apparently your mileage may vary if benjo's story is true. I cannot believe they would say the warranty is for the products' lifetime. Doesn't that necessarily mean the warranty ends when the product dies? Talk about a bullshit warranty policy. That had to be an employee who was about to quite their job.Adams

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By Smithhammer
Simms has a pretty good reputation, though I've never used the Guide Classics. Gotta say though, I'm pretty amazed that for $330 they don't even come with built in gravel guards, and that you'd have to bump up another $100 or so to get them on the G3's.The Patagonia Watermasters are durable as heck, have a great guarantee, and come with gravel guards for the same price as the Classics.
By Zach Matthews
Hey guys-I have fished hard in a set of Guides for 5 years now. I don't actually guide, so I am definitely below the target use level, but I fish as hard as any amateur in the country. My Guides have aquaseal patches nine ways to sunday on them and I have had the feet rebuilt by Simms (under warranty, but for reference the cost is $50). I don't like all the G3 bangles/built in dashboard and the same went for the Cloudveils. My main problem with them is I can't fold them down comfortably. An XL sized guy might not notice as bad but as a Medium, and with all the pockets being the same size as on the XL, it can really wear you out. Same reason I don't wear a vest: I like my mobility.If I get word Simms is discontinuing the Guides I will order a new pair to hold in reserve. I truly believe they are the best wader on the market. The only way to improve on the design would be gravel guards and stronger material.Zach
By Brookwookie
Originally posted by Smithhammer:n The Patagonia Watermasters are durable as heck
But just how durable is heck? If I blunder into a rose thicket and fall down (shit happens), aren't I just as likely to pinhole a pair of $400 breathables as I am a pair of $100? Or has breathable wader tech advanced to a point where the material isn't, at its heart, wispy sissy shit? I'm in the market for a new pair, and if they're actually durable I might consider them worth the extra cash. If not, I'll just get another pair of Orvis Clearwaters. And another Stowaway rod. And a really big bottle of expensive booze.
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By Smithhammer
Originally posted by Dave L:n But just how durable is heck? If I blunder into a rose thicket and fall down (shit happens), aren't I just as likely to pinhole a pair of $400 breathables as I am a pair of $100? Or has breathable wader tech advanced to a point where the material isn't, at its heart, wispy sissy shit?
On most of the higher end waders I've used or checked out, part of what you're paying for is thicker, tougher fabric. And I do think that they are often more durable than cheaper models. But nothing is idiot-proof, and obviously you can still put holes in top of the liners. And then part of what you're often paying for as well are bells and whistles, like gravel guards, fancier pockets and things like that. Still, I agree that $300+ is a chunk of cash for a pair of waders, and there's something to be said for having $$ left over for booze. I've got the Patagonia Watermaster Lights (which I got a great deal on), which are a slightly lighter material, and don't have gravel guards, and are about $100 cheaper. They're still really durable though, as long as you don't do anything too stupid. It's a trade-off - I like having the lighter, more packable version for traveling, and being able to easily fit them in my pack along with everything else for hiking into places.

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