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Post by Salmotrutta » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:21 am

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Post by West Chester » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:53 am

How much do you suppose it bother the NYT to have this on their list?
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Top 5 at a Glance
1. ARGUING WITH IDIOTS, written and edited by Glenn Beck, Kevin Balfe and others
2. TRUE COMPASS, by Edward M. Kennedy
3. HIGH ON ARRIVAL, by Mackenzie Phillips with Hilary Liftin
4. AMERICAN ON PURPOSE, by Craig Ferguson
5. THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH, by Richard Dawkins
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Post by Smithhammer » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:37 am

West Chester wrote:How much do you suppose it bother the NYT to have this on their list?
Hardcover Nonfiction

Top 5 at a Glance
1. ARGUING WITH IDIOTS, written and edited by Glenn Beck, Kevin Balfe and others
2. TRUE COMPASS, by Edward M. Kennedy
3. HIGH ON ARRIVAL, by Mackenzie Phillips with Hilary Liftin
4. AMERICAN ON PURPOSE, by Craig Ferguson
5. THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH, by Richard Dawkins
Like I said, playing a role and taking it to the bank...

By the way, the fact that he beat out Mackenzie Phillip's tawdry confession of consensual incest and rampant drug taking is the real shocker here.
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Post by eponymous » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:26 pm

Hammer:

Don't you think you are falling into the trap of minimizing it by somehow figuring that the sentiments are not real?

What of a guy like Maher or Jon Stewart or Olberman. Also very smart dudes. Is what they posit on a nightly or weekly basis bullshit because they too are simply filling a void and acting? That is really all they are doing isn't it. THey don't really believe the drivel, bile and hatred they spew, do they?

As with most things the truth lies in between. Don't discount the teabaggers as all one in the same. That would be a major faux pas as they say in Germany.
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Post by DayTripper » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:05 pm

I thought faux pas was french

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Post by Smithhammer » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:55 pm

eponymous wrote:Hammer:

Don't you think you are falling into the trap of minimizing it by somehow figuring that the sentiments are not real?

What of a guy like Maher or Jon Stewart or Olberman. Also very smart dudes. Is what they posit on a nightly or weekly basis bullshit because they too are simply filling a void and acting? That is really all they are doing isn't it. THey don't really believe the drivel, bile and hatred they spew, do they?

As with most things the truth lies in between. Don't discount the teabaggers as all one in the same. That would be a major faux pas as they say in Germany.

Maher, Jon Stewart or Olberman. Hmmm....since, in my opinion, they do very different things, I wouldn't treat them the same. Maher can make some good points, but he can also use it like a bludgeon, which sometimes turns me off. Olberman? Frankly, he mostly just annoys me. And Jon Stewart? Jon Stewart is a comedian. He may use current events for much of his material, but ultimately, he is still just a comedian.

But honestly, would I say that any of them "spew hatred and bile" on the same level as Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck? No. And I really don't think that's just a matter of my personal politics, either. I really do think that O'Reilly and Beck spew a vast amount more hatred than someone like Jon Stewart (who I don't think truly spews "hatred" at all), or even Olberman, for that matter. I think that the O'Reilly's and the Beck's and the Limbaugh's, and their imitators, whole raison d'etre (as they say in Germany) is based on tapping into, and encouraging, bile and hate as a means of drumming up support.

Do I think I'm minimizing it by not thinking the sentiments are real? Yes. Absolutely and without hesitation. It's television, and there is really, truly, very little about television that I think is sincere and real. If anything. In fact, I think that confusing it with real is a huge mistake, and one which makes the viewer highly vulnerable to all sorts of insipid suggestion and mind fuck. It's low-level entertainment; programming designed first and foremost to make lots of money. Nothing more. And that isn't a partisan thing, it's just the nature of the beast.
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Post by DayTripper » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:43 am

I thought raison d'etre was french.

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Post by DayTripper » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:56 am

I can't stand watching Fox News. I also can't stand watching Olberman, though I really liked him and Dan Patrick when they were on SportsCenter back in the day. I'll also say that Jon Stewart and Colbert are two of the funniest shows on TV. Anyone see Colbert when he had the guy on that wrote a book on how US special forces used to try to make goats' hearts explode- wIth mind power? That was fucking hilarious.

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Post by eponymous » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:46 pm

DayTripper wrote:I thought faux pas was french
It is. I was being fahseeshus.
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Post by eponymous » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:54 pm

Hammer:

Like I said, the truth is somewhere in between. The right apparently is getting news based upon hate and the left is getting theirs from a comedian. We are fucked.

I do have to repeat though that I think it unfair to say that someone's whole act is about hate but you freely admit to barely if ever tuning in. That is intellectually lazy. Honestly no disrespect, just sayin'.

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Post by Smithhammer » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:35 pm

eponymous wrote:Hammer:

I do have to repeat though that I think it unfair to say that someone's whole act is about hate but you freely admit to barely if ever tuning in. That is intellectually lazy. Honestly no disrespect, just sayin'.

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As I've already clearly said, I've seen Fox on many occasions. I've listened to Bill O'Reilly. I've listened to Glenn Beck. In fact, I remember when Beck was actually a fairly normal reporter before the light bulb went off and he realized he could make a lot more money by being a polarizing ass. And as I already said, I don't need to continue tuning in every single fucking night to repeatedly have that driven home. I think it's fair to say I've watched it often enough to get it. So honestly, no - I don't think my assessment is "intellectually lazy" in the slightest.

I think that, to be honest, you're really bending over backwards to defend these guys, and rather than defend them by actually demonstrating how they are articulating coherent, productive points of view (instead of taking the easy route of just getting people continually worked up, often over completely overdramatized, if not totally fictitious, interpretations of events), instead you're trying to make it about me, as though watching Fox more regularly might actually change my opinion. Trust me - short of a complete overhaul of their staff, and their obvious bias, it won't.

And I'm not saying that bias doesn't exist on other news networks either, by any means, but by and large what Fox does can hardly be called "news" at all. They are on the extreme end of subjective opinion masquerading as objective "reporting," regardless of their political orientation. I would be equally turned off by a network that showed that much obvious and consistent bias in the other direction.

Now would you like to return to explaining how the "tea bag" movement isn't wildly inconsistent, highly subjective in its application of the term "socialism," and generally dominated by a bunch of wackjobs, or do you want to continue debating the validity of my opinion about Fox?
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