Well, I feel safer.

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Post by The Volfish » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:41 am

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Post by jerome » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:00 am

I hear he's a shoe in for the Heisman this year also.... He's a triple threat, The Obamanator.... :coffee
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Post by LTD » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:05 pm

He must give one hell of a blowjob....think he got Barney's vote?
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Re: Well, I feel safer.

Post by SOBF » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:35 pm

"Christians do not understand at all. Christianity preaches love, unity. Islam preaches brotherhood."
Brotherhood of those that would kill the Infidel ?? My brother spent a few years in Saudi and he had a different take on "The religion of peace"

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Post by befuddled » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:51 pm

I agree completely and that was point. Islam, historically, is about muslims. There is no inclusion.

Couple that with the history of christianity which does supposedly preach love and unity.


Take that into context and it makes any symbolic peace achievement...well just that. Symbolic only.
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Post by Rusty Hook » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:24 pm

befuddled wrote:I agree completely and that was point. Islam, historically, is about muslims. There is no inclusion.

Couple that with the history of christianity which does supposedly preach love and unity.


Take that into context and it makes any symbolic peace achievement...well just that. Symbolic only.
Both religions (and many others) are well-known for preaching love and unity and practicing something else altogether. :coffee
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Re: Well, I feel safer.

Post by ditchdoc » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:16 pm

Religion-"the opiate of the masses" Can't remember who said it, but I agree.
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Post by Plow » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:06 am

ditchdoc wrote:Religion-"the opiate of the masses" Can't remember who said it, but I agree.
The Marx brother with no timing said something like that. I'd add crack, meth, pot and viagra to opiate just to keep it current.
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Post by Rusty Hook » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:33 pm

Plow wrote:
ditchdoc wrote:Religion-"the opiate of the masses" Can't remember who said it, but I agree.
The Marx brother with no timing said something like that.
Here is the full quote, in context:

Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man—state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.

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Re: Well, I feel safer.

Post by ditchdoc » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:02 pm

Crap! Now I'm a Marxist. There may be worse things. I've seen and heard that quote attributed to several philosophers. Actually, I like it better out of context. Everyone likes their illusions.

Thanks for the enlightenment RH.
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