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Re: Ft Hood

Post by Rusty Hook » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:49 am

I have been to Pinedale, and it's pretty obvious you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Pinedale, at least in the summer when people go there to camp and fish, is a tourist town that sees lots of easterners, backpackers, hippie rock climbers headed into the Winds, and just about everybody else. It has more in common with Jackson Hole than the kind of redneck town you are trying to picture it as, and with the high prices to match. There probably are spots in Pinedale where you could get your ass kicked simply for not being from around there, but you could say the same thing about Denver or Portland. No big deal.
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Post by LTD » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:00 am

Rusty Hook wrote:I have been to Pinedale, and it's pretty obvious you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Pinedale, at least in the summer when people go there to camp and fish, is a tourist town that sees lots of easterners, backpackers, hippie rock climbers headed into the Winds, and just about everybody else. It has more in common with Jackson Hole than the kind of redneck town you are trying to picture it as, and with the high prices to match. There probably are spots in Pinedale where you could get your ass kicked simply for not being from around there,Who ever said anything about getting your ass kicked? Rusty reading comprehension = FAIL. And you want to practice law... but you could say the same thing about Denver or Portland. No big deal.
Rusty..I have spent more time in Sublette County (which includes Pinedale) than you could ever dream my friend. As a tourist.....you certainly know more than I do, so I will refrain from any further discussion. :bow
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Re: Ft Hood

Post by ditchdoc » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:08 am

Okay... is the argument now about Pinedale? PHEEEW!! I was getting tired of politics.
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Re: Ft Hood

Post by Shufisher » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:02 am

BigCliff wrote:
Its comin'. They just did a bang up job of getting a Democrat elected* to congress in NY-
The fat lady ain't sung yet...
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Re: Ft Hood

Post by BigCliff » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:30 pm

Came across a soldier's take on related matters that I thought more should hear-
I really have to chime in on this topic. I spent the better part of last year deployed to Afghanistan, where I was stationed at Bagram. Part of my job, actually the most important part, was to coordinate the transfer of my unit's fallen back home. This was something that I never, ever looked forward to, but it was a duty I took very seriously. Part of this duty was a departure ceremony as our fallen left Afghanistan for Dover. I don't think you can ever realize how powerful these ceremonies are until you've taken part in one.

At Bagram, all personnel not performing an essential task would line up on the main drive through Bagram. As the open backed HUMMV carrying the flagged draped transfer case slowly proceeded from the mortuary down the main drive to the airfield, everyone would come to attention and render a salute. There would be thousands of people, soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen, lined up as for this. The fallen hero would be taken on to the tarmac and driven to an empty C-17 that had its ramp lowered, waiting to receive the transfer case. An honor guard and a cordon, as well as hundreds of servicemen and women, would be silently standing at attention as an honor guard carried the remains to the center of the aircraft. Whenever possible I would arrange for the honor guard and cordon to come from the fallen's team or platoon. Always, always, always, they wanted to be the ones to perform this service.
The last fallen hero ramp ceremony I put together still stings in my memory.

Ramadan had just ended, it was the first few weeks of autumn. A few kilometers from our base one of our police mentoring teams (PMT) was almost attacked by a vehicle bourne improvised explosive device (VBIED). I say almost as the attack was thwarted by one of our HUMMV drivers who took evasive action. Unfortunately, this resulted in the rollover of the HUMMV which caused the death of the driver. I was at the mortuary when the MEDEVAC helicopter brought this young man's broken body in to be prepared for the journey home.

The rest of his team were brought to Bagram as well. They were very adamant that they be the ones to escort the fallen brother to the C17. Although dirty and disheveled from their encounter, I agreed as I am certain their brother would have had it no other way. To a man, they wanted me to know one essential fact about him: he was Muslim. They insisted that he be sent home with a Muslim cleric presiding. We had one at Bagram, a major who was an Islamic chaplain - in fact I had dinner with this man just a few nights prior. We were able to grant the PMT's request.

I do not have the words to adequately describe the emotion in the night air on the tarmac. Under a crescent moon the fallen hero was carried onto the C17 by his team brothers, followed by the honor guard, the Commanding General and Command Sergeant Major of the 101st Airborne, and of course the Muslim chaplain.
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Re: Ft Hood

Post by ditchdoc » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:18 pm

Amen.
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Re: Ft Hood

Post by m.b. » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:27 pm

bump.

any of you guys have any idea why the White House has postponed the Ft Hood investigation that the armed services committee was gonna do?
don't we owe it to our military personnel to find out everything that went on?
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Re: Ft Hood

Post by Plow » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:32 pm

Hard to believe the most open and honest White House ever would would be accused of sitting on the Fort Hood reveiw
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Re: Ft Hood

Post by m.b. » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:54 am

terrorist "man-made disaster" attempt thwarted.

here's another example of what can happen when you end the war on terror.

and you libs can't say BHO's administration didn't know about him. the government had been advised by the guy's own father to keep an eye on him and keep him out of the country, yet they still let him in.


thank God (the real one, not obama) no one was hurt.







but i realize this isn't real news as the link is from fox. [yawn]
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Re: Ft Hood

Post by LTD » Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:00 am

Sure glad Obama has been doing such a good job apologizing, bowing, and making good with all our friends overseas. :cheer We are much safer now than ever before with him at the helm! :vomit The strong figure that he is and all......... The US has become far to relaxed IMO.

How about Napolitano's comment that the "system worked"? What a joke!
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Re: Ft Hood

Post by LTD » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:26 am

UPDATE>>>>>>>Napolitano says today "the system failed". Hope and Change...
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Re: Ft Hood

Post by The Volfish » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:53 am

I've heard the argument floated that they could not exclude the guy from entry into America unless they knew more. The "protocol" is to not burn the potential source of additional information by putting them on a "no-fly" list.

Somebody was doing a bang-up job watching him for better info.

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