Healthcare reform

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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by Mattb » Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:14 pm

SOBF wrote:Matt we agree on a few things....not this....I would rather have taken more time and get it right
If I thought the Republicans were going to do anything other than stick their fingers in their ears and scream "death panel", I might agree, but at this point, no one has shown any real interest in serious negotiations on substantiative issues in this bill. Snowe was in there for a while, but she bugged out, and Lieberman never really cared, he just wanted the limelight, and a guaranteed spot on the Sunday talk shows; Nelson likewise didn't really have serious policy issues, he just wanted more money for Nebraska.

Cliff's infographic is a good one - this bill provides real help for a whole lot of people that need it and it's very fiscally responsible - much moreso than Medicare part D, which a whole lot of the folks that're yelling and screaming about the defecit thought was just fine at the time. Granted, Medicare part D was for old people, and they vote, so I can understand where that came from, but still...
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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by MTgrayling » Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:19 pm

SOBF wrote:
They are incapable of doing the peoples business. We need congressional reform worse than we need health care reform. Without it, we are all fucked.
And on that we agree !!!!
Damn agreeing with SOBF is getting to be a habit.

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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by m.b. » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:10 pm

BigCliff wrote:Image
where did that crock of shit come from?
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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by eponymous » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:26 pm

Mattb wrote:
SOBF wrote:this bill provides real help for a whole lot of people that need it and it's very fiscally responsible
bwahahahahahah bwahahahahahah bwaaaahahahah (x10). If you you believe that...well you know....

I will repeat a particularly favorite mantra of mine. If you think health care costs a lot now, just wait until its free.
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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by BigCliff » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:25 am

m.b. wrote:where did that crock of shit come from?
Put together by Think Progress, an undeniably liberal site. (not balanced, but factual) Which parts of it are you taking issue with?
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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by BigCliff » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:46 am

Ya can't make this stuff up-
Someone calls in while Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY) is answering the lines, practically in tears because Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK) missed this morning's procedural vote on health care.

He was apparently concerned that -- after following Sen. Tom Coburn's (R-OK) instructions to pray that someone couldn't make a manager's amendment vote Sunday night -- his prayers for Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV) to die struck the wrong senator.

"Our small tea bag group here in Waycross, we got our vigil together and took Dr. Coburn's instructions and prayed real hard that Sen. Byrd would either die or couldn't show up at the vote the other night," the caller said.
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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by Plow » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:55 am

Sen. Coburn: ‘People Ought To Pray’ That A Senator ‘Can’t Make The Vote Tonight’. Are the libs pissed he made a religious reference or are they trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill and suggest he wants someone to die?

On a personal note I'll shed no tears when the the last remaining klan member in the Senate makes his way to hell. Couldn't help but make it a nicer place - the senate not hell.
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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by SOBF » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:08 pm

If I thought the Republicans were going to do anything other than stick their fingers in their ears and scream "death panel", I might agree, but at this point, no one has shown any real interest in serious negotiations on substantiative issues in this bill. Snowe was in there for a while, but she bugged out, and Lieberman never really cared,
Do you really believe the Dems or Reps are in it for us? How about TRYING some free market shit and letting the buyer buy across State lines?
Their are other measures that should be tried before we let the numbnutts in Washington take this over
Health insurance has become health maintenance.
Does your car insurance company pay for oil changes....new tires...blown head gasket ???
Yet oue health ins co have to pay for an office visit...flu shot ect...lets look at the big picture and not blame each other...seems like some bright guys here on the Sukk

Do you honestly believe having a "no pre existing condition clause" will reduce rates ??
I remember the mandatory car insurance here in Maine...It was going to reduce rates....not so much
With that kind of mentality we could go without car insurance until we get in an accident...makes no sense


So I don't pay for health insurance until I get sick ?? Lets say I fail to pay the fine for not carrying health ins, but I just sign up when I need it??

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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by m.b. » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:05 pm

that's part of the "change." duh.
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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by Shufisher » Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:32 am

Well, the gumment now controls the earning power of wall street & banking execs, auto maker execs and now Doctors/healthcare workers ...what's you job worth when the gumment sets it's sights on your industrry?

But don't call it socialism, it's not PC...
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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by gadflyfisher » Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:39 am

Don't take the govco money and they don't tell you what you can earn.

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Re: Healthcare reform

Post by gadflyfisher » Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:43 am

Plow wrote:Sen. Coburn: ‘People Ought To Pray’ That A Senator ‘Can’t Make The Vote Tonight’. Are the libs pissed he made a religious reference or are they trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill and suggest he wants someone to die?

On a personal note I'll shed no tears when the the last remaining klan member in the Senate makes his way to hell. Couldn't help but make it a nicer place - the senate not hell.

What kind of ahole would make a mountain out of a mole hill?

Psst did you hear about the ornament on the White House tree?

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