Globalization and Foreign Policy Realism

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Re: Globalization and Foreign Policy Realism

Post by m.b. » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:51 pm

most people can multi-task. sorry if that's inconvenient.

you don't find it ironic that all these small-businessmen listen to and believe in what Rush (and whoever else you mentinoed) say? that there is a reason they don't care for your boy? i mean after all small businesses are what built and continue to sustain this country. i'd tend think that these successful people you're dropping in on are successful for a reason....they didn't rely on government to give them everything and they see bigger government as a hindrance. you don't see their success as a corollary of their views? why are they successful then?
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Re: Globalization and Foreign Policy Realism

Post by m.b. » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:53 pm

but back to my original question though:
m.b. wrote:and as far as "blaming the libs," there is plenty of shit from the last year on the first page of this section to be pissed about. If we shouldn't blame the libs (who've controlled the exec. and leg. branch the entire time) who should we blame? who should we blame about the devaluation of the dollar and the unprecedented debt that has occurred over the last year? bush? man-made global warming?


please help me understand.
who should we blame?
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Re: Globalization and Foreign Policy Realism

Post by BigCliff » Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:06 am

m.b. wrote:but back to my original question though:
m.b. wrote:and as far as "blaming the libs," there is plenty of shit from the last year on the first page of this section to be pissed about. If we shouldn't blame the libs (who've controlled the exec. and leg. branch the entire time) who should we blame? who should we blame about the devaluation of the dollar and the unprecedented debt that has occurred over the last year? bush? man-made global warming?


please help me understand.
who should we blame?
Your questions seem to be oriented as "Who should I blame for the fact that there's political stuff going on that I don't like?" The devaluation of the dollar was set in motion long before Barry was elected, and the increase in the money supply is under the control of the Fed, continuing to be head by a Republican appointee. Concern over the debt during a severe economic downturn is kinda like sticking to your guns on water conservation while your house is on fire: a noble and helpful notion put forth at a foolishly inappropriate time. Once the economy is safely headed in the right direction, it will be time to get the debt and deficit headed down. (ya know, like that communist Clinton did)

What I was talking about is conservatives blaming liberal policies for lack of economic growth. I think certain policies can be hinderances on economic growth, but not those commonly whined about by conservatives. Protectionist trade policies, ag policy favoring corporate farms over local and international producers, and tax structures that encourage outsourcing and hinder capital intensive industries need much more attention. I also think that the "public option" being a part of healthcare reform would have been a huge plus for entrepreneurs, because it would provide a simple way for start-ups to offer affordable health insurance to their employees.
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Re: Globalization and Foreign Policy Realism

Post by m.b. » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:58 pm

BigCliff wrote:Your questions seem to be oriented as "Who should I blame for the fact that there's political stuff going on that I don't like?"

uh, no, it was pretty cut and dried what i was asking. but what is there to "like" about the exponential increase in the debt and this huge devaluation in the USD? that's "political stuff" you're okay with?

bush took the poor advice of his economic advisors, started us down the bailout road, has been blamed for it, and conservatives admit it and are extremely displeased with it.

your boy has taken it to a whole new level though. who should be blamed for the massive debt increase aka the 1000+ page pork-laiden stimulus package? you know, the one that was rushed through congress despite the fact that no one actually read the whole thing, the one that hasn't done much to "stimulate" the economy, the one your kid is gonna be paying for for the rest of her life.

and who should be blamed for the run-away spending that has transpired over the last year and the debt-financing to pay for it that's devalued the worth of the USD ? that's pretty much what i was asking.

obviously you aren't gonna hold BHO or his congress accountable for it, nor admit it. we're all waiting to see you pull your patented copy-&-paste move on something off of one of those liberal socialist sites you peruse to explain it all away...
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Re: Globalization and Foreign Policy Realism

Post by BigCliff » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:22 am

There's definitely nothing to like about the expansion of the debt and devaluation of the dollar, which is a big reason why I've never claimed to like it. The shitty situation we were/are in called for some stuff to be done that had shitty effects. If the shit continues after the economy is back fully crankin, I'll be hollerin about shit too.
m.b. wrote: we're all waiting to see you pull your patented copy-&-paste move on something off of one of those liberal socialist sites you peruse to explain it all away...
Here's another example of your compulsion to use "liberal/leftist" as an insult, even when its completely unnecessary. Doesn't it kinda go without saying that if something is socialist, then its liberal? I realize that its a dog-whistle battle cry to all you right wingers to get everybody all excited about the rant, but you're bound to be tired of typing it by now, right?
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Re: Globalization and Foreign Policy Realism

Post by m.b. » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:36 pm

nah, liberal socialist is just the best way to describe it. i didn't realize "liberal socialist" was an insult. i thought they were just fitting adjectives.
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