West Chester wrote:I only watched about the first 2 minutes, and saw enough logical fallacies and right-wing ideology to conclude that the rest wasn't worth watching.BigCliff wrote:Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that GM and others spent millions over decades lobbying against higher fuel economy standards instead of just designing better products to compete and thus keeping the jobs in the state. And definitely not because the city's politicians have been just plain corrupt.So, it's very obvious that you did not watch the video there biglib.
Nah, its definitely because of the liberals.
So that I understand your point of view... it is GM's fault that Detroit collapsed? 4:15 in the video will help clarify that for you.
GM has more fuel efficient cars in their lineup than Honda or Toyota, but the #1 selling car in the country is the FORD F-150.
And for the record, it is not a companies job to provide jobs to a city, it is their job to earn profits for the shareholders. The population in Detroit has a higher probability of going to jail than they do graduating high school, but I guess that is GM's fault also.
I said nothing about GM being the leader in blame for Detroit's plight. My point was that bad business practices, corrupt officials are more to blame than "liberal politics". That said, the UAW likely ranks third in line. The point I failed to mention is that those with ambition have already left, cuz its sux there.
GM's not solely to blame, but would you argue that they bear no responsibility? They do indeed now have more efficient vehicles, but that's a very recent development. Detroit's downward slide went into full gear over ten years ago.
Ford is doing much better, and that likely has alot to do with making stuff people want, rather than spending millions on lobbying for the status quo. Their early jump into sustainable business practices also plays a role, but of course that just utopian commie bullshit.