Why we're fat

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Why we're fat

Post by BigCliff » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:44 pm

Only part of the reason, of course, but this ain't helping-

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Re: Why we're fat

Post by Plow » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:47 pm

supply and demand
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Re: Why we're fat

Post by West Chester » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:00 pm

Cliff... are you just upset because the Center for disease control says you are Obese?
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Re: Why we're fat

Post by BigCliff » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:26 pm

Plow wrote:supply and demand
Huh?
subsidy

: a grant or gift of money: as a : a sum of money formerly granted by the British Parliament to the crown and raised by special taxation b : money granted by one state to another c : a grant by a government to a private person or company to assist an enterprise deemed advantageous to the public
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Re: Why we're fat

Post by Back Eddy » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:30 pm

BigCliff wrote:Why we're fat
Speak for yourself, there chunky.

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Re: Why we're fat

Post by West Chester » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:36 pm

BigCliff wrote:
Plow wrote:supply and demand
Huh?
See Cliff it is basic economics, if a meat company is subsidized by the government then they can sell their product at a lower price and still hit their profit target. This makes meat inexpensive because the government has stepped in to alter the supply and demand for a product. meat being less expensive has a higher demand, salad having a higher cost has a lower demand.
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Re: Why we're fat

Post by BigCliff » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:58 pm

West Chester wrote:
BigCliff wrote:
Plow wrote:supply and demand
Huh?
See Cliff it is basic economics, if a meat company is subsidized by the government then they can sell their product at a lower price and still hit their profit target. This makes meat inexpensive because the government has stepped in to alter the supply and demand for a product. meat being less expensive has a higher demand, salad having a higher cost has a lower demand.
No shit.

But to use some of the knowledge gained in the second day of Econ, we can see by the disproportionate subsidies given to the meat and dairy industries, that this competitive situation is quite imperfect. The federal government is granting over 150x the amount to producers of foods that should be consumed 1/4 as much as fruits and vegetables. Given that subsidies, if used at all, are supposed to "support the public good" something's fucked up here.

The public is consuming too much of foods that cause heart disease, etc, because the federal government's actions artificially deflate those foods' prices.

My proposal: make the subsidies match the USDA pyramid, or shitcan them altogether. (Being a moderate,, I'll say five years are allotted to achieve this.)
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Re: Why we're fat

Post by West Chester » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:15 pm

BigCliff wrote:
But to use some of the knowledge gained in the second day of Econ, we can see by the disproportionate subsidies given to the meat and dairy industries, that this competitive situation is quite imperfect. The federal government is granting over 150x the amount to producers of foods that should be consumed 1/4 as much as fruits and vegetables. Given that subsidies, if used at all, are supposed to "support the public good" something's fucked up here.

The public is consuming too much of foods that cause heart disease, etc, because the federal government's actions artificially deflate those foods' prices.

My proposal: make the subsidies match the USDA pyramid, or shitcan them altogether. (Being a moderate,, I'll say five years are allotted to achieve this.)
You are so off your rocker Cliff. So you want socialized subsidies, take the money from the meat and give to the vegetables....
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Re: Why we're fat

Post by BigCliff » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:26 pm

West Chester wrote:You are so off your rocker Cliff. So you want socialized subsidies, take the money from the meat and give to the vegetables....
Dood, you're apparently retarded today. Do you think the meat subsidies I'm talking about are coming from private charities?
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Re: Why we're fat

Post by West Chester » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:28 pm

No Cliff, obviously you are not smart enough to understand. Subsidies come from public tax dollars, of which I pay enough already.
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Re: Why we're fat

Post by BigCliff » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:31 pm

West Chester wrote:No Cliff, obviously you are not smart enough to understand. Subsidies come from public tax dollars, of which I pay enough already.
I never said increase the total, dipshit. I said the proportions given should more closely match a balanced diet, or get rid of the subsidies.

Pay attention.
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Re: Why we're fat

Post by Plow » Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:33 pm

Add competition to supply and demand.

Demand for burgers is high and there are many vendors working for that burger dollar. At any level of burgerdom consumers choose based on quality and price. So to be successfully a vendor must provided the highest quality at the lowest price. Thats a win for us burger eaters and the American way (for now).

Demand for salads is low and only on the menu to appease the libs. Salads loose money so the loss must be covered via burger sales. This drives up burgers cost and is another example of a lib hidden tax. It has to be done to shut up whining bitching libs so the rest of us can have a decent day.


So to answer your question consumers are fat because they choose to be fat.
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