slavetotheflyrod wrote:Killing someone 'cause they're 180 days behind is a lossy solution BTW.
The government does have liens on the cattle which is why they impounded them. I don't believe they have the ability to lien his real estate for the grazing fee debt, but I could be wrong. In any case, it wouldn't matter, because the Bundy place is owner by the Bundy Family Revocable Trust, according to the county recorder, not Cliven Bundy. Odds are that property stays in the family for at least another generation at least so it'd be a long damn time before any lien got settled.
Now, to the heart of the matter:
Bundy has fought his battle in court to it's conclusion and lost every step of the way. He's been given his due process, time and time again, and court after court has found the debt valid. This has gone on for 20 years now and the tab is over a million bucks, so let me ask you Mr. Plow - How long would YOU wait to collect your million bucks and change? And after 20 years of asking nicely could he pretty please pay his grazing fees they finally get around to impounding the cattle - if there's anything about this scenario so far that should upset you it's that they waited so long to impound the beef. As for the show of force - again, what would you do Mr. Plow? This fool owes a million plus dollars, the courts have confirmed that fact, now you have a court order to seize the beef and all of a sudden Mr. Bundy and his ilk are threatening violence and doing so with clear intent and capability. Would you send another letter? Leave him another voice mail?
If it were my money and his cows, he'd be in a hole in the ground and I'd be dining on his beef right about 180 days after he was past due.
And I feel like that's more than fair (to him).
So if we're upset still lets be upset that the BLM has allowed this situation to fester for so long. This should have been dealt with and this money collected and returned to the treasury a long time ago. Whatever happens to Bundy and these feeble minded followers of his is irrelevant.
All the government can do is keep his cattle off the land and slap on as many liens as law will allow. I don't think a revocable trust will protect shit (at least not from the IRS). If the government wants your land they can take it for far less that Bundy's problems (especially in todays political environment).
Oh, and the government needs to convince the American people that Bundy does NOT have free rights to graze on that land AND that the government (BLM) does indeed own it.