Upsetter wrote:peetso wrote:As the grandson and great-grandson of four refugees I would sincerely like to say go fuck yourself.
cheers,
peetso
Yeah, and Im the fourth and fifth generation descendant of immigrants from france, germany, and welsh country. There was no such thing as refugees back then. Just seriously determined mofos, determined to manifest their own destiny. What's your point?
“America is God’s Crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of Europe are melting and reforming … Germans and Frenchmen, Irishmen and Englishmen, Jews and Russians — into the Crucible with you all! God is making the American.”
The crucible doesnt exist anymore. Just look at the 25k somali's in msp. Never seen a more insular community of
americans muslims....except wandering around places like amsterdam, copenhagen, and paris. I refuse to watch this place become those places. Somebody has to stoke the crucible.
My ancestors were actual refugees, not immigrants (not that it fucking matters) . . . and the same bullshit being spewed about today's immigrants/refugees was spewed about them, - a lower class of people, only stick to themselves, weird cultures and practices, will never adapt, never be real Canadians, along with some other more basic xenophobic garbage (smelly, stupid, lazy, etc.)
Now I'm not saying that they're shouldn't be rules, restrictions, safeties, etc. . . and an argument could be made for even tightening these restrictions. And I'm surely not saying that all refugees/immigrants are good folks, because obviously some aren't
But my real point is when you denigrate entire cultures and people, fleeing war and famine, families just looking for a better life as "shitheads from the other side of the fucking world", that somehow these people aren't aren't as you say "determined mofos, determined to manifest their own destiny" . . . you're either being an asshole or you are an asshole.
Either way, it's an unflattering look for you.
