#566437
Russia stole all his thunder,
I mean literally, they studied that tool and defeated him.

Rumor has it that Obama will do anything, not to have Putin define the rest of his Presidency.

Maybe it's just trendy, but I drink a lot of Vodka these days..

CRU.
#566482
Plow wrote:... Hillary Clinton.

Seriously, Israel an "apartheid" state...

Please lord, let somebody in this administration do something right.
Sometimes your general ignorance is breath taking.....intelligent Israelis have been saying this for years...

2007 — then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert: “If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights (also for the Palestinians in the territories), then, as soon as that happens, the State of Israel is finished.”

2010 — then-Israeli Defense Minister and Former Prime Minister Ehud Barak: “The simple truth is, if there is one state” including Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, “it will have to be either binational or undemocratic. … if this bloc of millions of Palestinians cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state.”

2013 — Israeli Justice Minister and Lead Peace Negotiator Tzipi Livni: “But the time has come for the same youth to ask, to what kind of state do they want to leave the gas reserves? To a Jewish democratic Israel? Or to a binational Arab state? Or to an apartheid state? It is impossible to deal with economic issues and to ignore the important diplomatic issues related to two states for two peoples.”
#566501
jdub wrote:
Plow wrote:... Hillary Clinton.

Seriously, Israel an "apartheid" state...

Please lord, let somebody in this administration do something right.
Sometimes your general ignorance is breath taking.....intelligent Israelis have been saying this for years...

2007 — then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert: “If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights (also for the Palestinians in the territories), then, as soon as that happens, the State of Israel is finished.”

2010 — then-Israeli Defense Minister and Former Prime Minister Ehud Barak: “The simple truth is, if there is one state” including Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, “it will have to be either binational or undemocratic. … if this bloc of millions of Palestinians cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state.”

2013 — Israeli Justice Minister and Lead Peace Negotiator Tzipi Livni: “But the time has come for the same youth to ask, to what kind of state do they want to leave the gas reserves? To a Jewish democratic Israel? Or to a binational Arab state? Or to an apartheid state? It is impossible to deal with economic issues and to ignore the important diplomatic issues related to two states for two peoples.”
Obviously you don't get the ramifications of his words.

Thankfully Kerry finally gets it and is trying to walk it back. Couple of days it will be just another one of many turds laid by the administrator in the Middle East.
#566524
Plow wrote:
jdub wrote:
Plow wrote:... Hillary Clinton.

Seriously, Israel an "apartheid" state...

Please lord, let somebody in this administration do something right.
Sometimes your general ignorance is breath taking.....intelligent Israelis have been saying this for years...

2007 — then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert: “If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights (also for the Palestinians in the territories), then, as soon as that happens, the State of Israel is finished.”

2010 — then-Israeli Defense Minister and Former Prime Minister Ehud Barak: “The simple truth is, if there is one state” including Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, “it will have to be either binational or undemocratic. … if this bloc of millions of Palestinians cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state.”

2013 — Israeli Justice Minister and Lead Peace Negotiator Tzipi Livni: “But the time has come for the same youth to ask, to what kind of state do they want to leave the gas reserves? To a Jewish democratic Israel? Or to a binational Arab state? Or to an apartheid state? It is impossible to deal with economic issues and to ignore the important diplomatic issues related to two states for two peoples.”
Obviously you don't get the ramifications of his words.

Thankfully Kerry finally gets it and is trying to walk it back. Couple of days it will be just another one of many turds laid by the administrator in the Middle East.
Oh quit trying to gussy up the fact that you just follow the wingnuts like a lemming on a leash-

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/t ... 06115.html

http://dailyrushbo.com/mark-levin-anti- ... ld-resign/

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2 ... -Statement
#566536
BigCliff wrote:
Plow wrote:Obviously you don't get the ramifications of his words.

Thankfully Kerry finally gets it and is trying to walk it back. Couple of days it will be just another one of many turds laid by the administrator in the Middle East.
Parroting the wingnuts again I see-

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/t ... 06115.html

http://dailyrushbo.com/mark-levin-anti- ... ld-resign/

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2 ... -Statement
Here's an informed take-
Is Israel an Apartheid State?
Jeffrey Goldberg
APR 29, 2014 11:54 AM EDT
By Jeffrey Goldberg

... I believe that Kerry is a pro-Israel secretary of state who worries about the Jewish state’s future, and because I myself have used the word “apartheid” not only to describe a possible terrible future for Israel, but also as a way of depicting some current and most unfortunate facts on the ground. http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2 ... heid-state
the Columbia Journalism Review, called Goldberg "the most influential journalist/blogger on matters related to Israel".[2]
#566553
austrotard wrote:israel is a seppo backed occupying force.
10 out of 10 americans do not realise this.

john kerry, most incompentent secretary of state since... the US backed the IRA due to britain being the occupying force.


eat a dick.

In my minds eye, you look like this:


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#566565
Good on him.

Bout time someone called the fucking Israelis out already.

We do a whole helluva lot for Israel.

Israel does fuck all for US.

Fuck all.
#566569
Plow wrote:Cliff,

What Kerry said is the height of incompetence for a US Secretary of State and your two post do nothing to disprove that. Shit like this highlights why the middle east and beyond has turned into such a mess.
What?

If colon Powell had done it you'd be regurgitating the exact opposite, carrying on about how it's about time someone got tough with the Israelis cuz the pussy democrats let em get away with murder for so long.

Guess what else Kerry has in store - word is he's drafting a take it or leave it peace plan for the two of them.

Take it or leave it.

What a pussy huh?
#566572
Plow wrote:Cliff,

What Kerry said is the height of incompetence for a US Secretary of State and your two post do nothing to disprove that. Shit like this highlights why the middle east and beyond has turned into such a mess.
While it was short on being diplomatic, it was a valid concern, as reflected by the quotes from Israeli officials I posted.

And the middle east has been a mess since before John Kerry an even our country has existed. Trying to blame it on Kerry reflects an amazing lack of perspective.
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