Conservative civil war

[blumpkin]

Choosing passion over logic accomplishes at least 2 things in my experience:

Really big fish get caught.

STD's get caught.

[fallen513]

lightnings get strucked.

[SOBF]

BigCliff wrote:Nope, I think he's doing fine. All presidents get shat on halfway through their second term.



Just wow!!!!!!!!!!

Cool-Aid much Cliff ? He's doing fine ? How is the Middle East going ? Don't you think it's fucked up when we have Afghan soldiers detained trying to get into Canada and likely headed back to Ashcanistan via deportation yet our southern border is a sieve and we don't do much.
Hows the Arab spring working out?
Has the cost of health insurance gone down ?
Hows Iraq looking ?
We were going to arm Syrian rebels and now we are fighting ISIS. We have no foreign policy. Not that we have in many decades.

[Plow]

Cliffy,
This says it all and Leon served in the whole first term.

"Too often in my view the President relies on the logic of the law professor rather than the passion of a leader," said Panetta.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... -sentence/

Logic instead of passion? Golly that sounds awful.

For the record Obama was a part-time lecturer and nowhere near a "professor". The supreme court has ruled against Obama's 20, with 9-0 rulings. Obviously he's not much of a Constitutional thinker.

Leaders know the difference between class-room logic and real-world logic. I've never seen a great leader who's passion wasn't tempered by his/her logic. I'll take a leaders passion over anything obama has on the table.

[BigCliff]

For the record Obama was a part-time lecturer and nowhere near a "professor". The supreme court has ruled against Obama's 20, with 9-0 rulings. Obviously he's not much of a Constitutional thinker.

For the record, you're just plain wrong, yet again:

UC Law School statement: The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer." From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama- ... professor/

You'll likely be more persuasive when you quit saying stuff that's just blatantly untrue.

[BaggerMcGuirk]

Part time lecturer or full time lecturer, sounds like someone is trying to pick pepper from fly shit. A lecturer is a lecturer.

Hey Cliffy, here is something that is true and let's see you defend this one.
The left media seems to be getting tired of covering for our national community organizer. Shock!

Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scandal

"The lead investigator later told Senate staffers that he felt pressure from his superiors in the office of Charles K. Edwards, who was then the acting inspector general, to withhold evidence — and that, in the heat of an election year, decisions were being made with political considerations in mind.

“We were directed at the time . . . to delay the report of the investigation until after the 2012 election,” David Nieland, the lead investigator on the Colombia case for the DHS inspector general’s office, told Senate staffers, according to three people with knowledge of his statement."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html

Here's another one

Why the Colombian Hooker Scandal Matters
More than sex, the story is about nepotism, favoritism, credibility and the president's safety.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-ho ... kingheader

Oopsie
So let me guess, so what Cliffy?

[Plow]

Says right there, plain as day, in your response he was a part time lecture and never on the tenure-track. He was offered tenure-track (yeah, right) with a shot at eventually becoming a professor but he would have to give up his demanding job ACORN and organizing communities (and maybe some golf). He ain't no real professor.

Lots of colleges call any instructor/teacher professor. Doesn't mean they have the rights, privileges and prestige of being a REAL professors (Made man). Outside of Chicago I doubt anyone would consider Obama's legal chops worthy of teaching.

For the record Obama was a part-time lecturer and nowhere near a "professor". The supreme court has ruled against Obama's 20, with 9-0 rulings. Obviously he's not much of a Constitutional thinker.

For the record, you're just plain wrong, yet again:

UC Law School statement: The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer." From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama- ... professor/

You'll likely be more persuasive when you quit saying stuff that's just blatantly untrue.

[BigCliff]

Says right there, plain as day...

UC Law School statement: From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama- ... professor/

Yup.

[BigCliff]

Part time lecturer or full time lecturer, sounds like someone is trying to pick pepper from fly shit. A lecturer is a lecturer.

Hey Cliffy, here is something that is true and let's see you defend this one...

So you're really claiming its a giant scandal that a guy hired a hooker while off duty and somebody in the admin might have known?

Really?

I'd expect such a thing from a Southern Baptist Grandma or a middle school hall monitor.

Maybe.

[blumpkin]

Anybody want to place odds on Alison Grimes winning the "Lying Game" in Kentucky...

[blumpkin]

Other than exporting it... And Fuck that, especially Montana coal. Coal is dead in this country. And I think it is despicable for any candidate to play on the emotions of Coal miners and their families pretending that they are going to bat for them. So a heartfelt Fuck you to you as well Mitch McConnell.

[Plow]

Says right there, plain as day...

UC Law School statement: From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama- ... professor/

Yup.

From the man who thinks Obama is doing a great job. Keep dreaming, Obama loves dreamers.