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Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:02 pm
by Reknirt
I’m a noob when it comes to tying dries and I’ve tried all sorts of different techniques but when I get to the end of the hook and want to tie my hackle off I have a bunch of fibers that are falling forward and it’s impossible to tie the hackle off without them all getting caught and creating an ugly mess.

I’m stripping or trimming the hackles at the end of the feather off and tying the bare quill to the hook shank shiny side up. I leave a little bit of bare quill so that the fibers stand up right on the first full turn, and everything seems fine until I make a few full turns and then the fibers start falling forward.

Thanks for any advice.

Re: Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:28 pm
by austrotard
you're just not any good.

Re: Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:28 pm
by Reknirt
My conclusion as well

Re: Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 9:01 pm
by pbrstreetgang
Have you tried the last part first?

Re: Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 9:44 pm
by Reknirt
What do you mean by that?

Re: Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 10:01 pm
by austrotard
reread what you've written.

Re: Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 6:19 am
by fly-chucker
Reknirt wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 7:02 pm
I’m a noob when it comes to tying dries and I’ve tried all sorts of different techniques but when I get to the end of the hook and want to tie my hackle off I have a bunch of fibers that are falling forward and it’s impossible to tie the hackle off without them all getting caught and creating an ugly mess.

I’m stripping or trimming the hackles at the end of the feather off and tying the bare quill to the hook shank shiny side up. I leave a little bit of bare quill so that the fibers stand up right on the first full turn, and everything seems fine until I make a few full turns and then the fibers start falling forward.

Thanks for any advice.
Have you tried taking a match or lighter to everything?

Re: Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 7:07 am
by SightCast
Reknirt, A good way to prevent this is to strip or burn one side of the hackle. With fibers on both sides of the quill, the side facing the hook shank causes resistance when being wrapped and causes the feather to twist. As you get to the finer part of the quill it will twist easier.

Another good way to keep a good thread head is to use a cauterizer to burn off any fibers before tying off. Also fold back all the fibers your first few wraps as you tie off the feather, the more wraps of thread you put on the harder it is to fold them back.


Tight Loops

Re: Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 7:18 am
by austrotard
drakian asshatch.

Re: Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 7:25 am
by FredA
Go here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=27028

I’m sure he can help.

Please. Go there.

Re: Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 7:37 am
by Reknirt
SightCast wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 7:07 am
Reknirt, A good way to prevent this is to strip or burn one side of the hackle. With fibers on both sides of the quill, the side facing the hook shank causes resistance when being wrapped and causes the feather to twist. As you get to the finer part of the quill it will twist easier.

Another good way to keep a good thread head is to use a cauterizer to burn off any fibers before tying off. Also fold back all the fibers your first few wraps as you tie off the feather, the more wraps of thread you put on the harder it is to fold them back.


Tight Loops
I appreciate it your help, tough crowd around here.

Re: Why does my dry fly hackle fall forward the closer I get to the eye?

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 5:44 pm
by austrotard
get a room at raffa's.